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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:04 am    Post subject: Climate Change Scam! John Coleman Replies ! Reply with quote

I wanted to see if you Quantum Physics guy's thought' were on John Coleman and his recent butt whooping that he gave to Al Gore and the Greenies about the sky falling ( Climate Change Scam)!

John Coleman has been a meteorologist since 1953, and is the founder of "The Weather Channel".
He has 31,000 scientists on his side, 9,000 of which are PhD’s, and their number is increasing daily, while the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change had only 2,500 scientists, and Coleman is seeing daily defections moving over to Coleman's conclusions.


John Coleman's Comments Before the San Diego Chamber of Commerce

Global Warming and the Price of a Gallon of Gas
by John Coleman

You may want to give credit where credit is due to Al Gore and his global warming campaign the next time you fill your car with gasoline, because there is a direct connection between Global Warming and four dollar a gallon gas. It is shocking, but true, to learn that the entire Global Warming frenzy is based on the environmentalist’s attack on fossil fuels, particularly gasoline. All this big time science, international meetings, thick research papers, dire threats for the future; all of it, comes down to their claim that the carbon dioxide in the exhaust from your car and in the smoke stacks from our power plants is destroying the climate of planet Earth. What an amazing fraud; what a scam.

The future of our civilization lies in the balance.

That’s the battle cry of the High Priest of Global Warming Al Gore and his fellow, agenda driven disciples as they predict a calamitous outcome from anthropogenic global warming. According to Mr. Gore the polar ice caps will collapse and melt and sea levels will rise 20 feet inundating the coastal cities making 100 million of us refugees. Vice President Gore tells us numerous Pacific islands will be totally submerged and uninhabitable. He tells us global warming will disrupt the circulation of the ocean waters, dramatically changing climates, throwing the world food supply into chaos. He tells us global warming will turn hurricanes into super storms, produce droughts, wipe out the polar bears and result in bleaching of coral reefs. He tells us tropical diseases will spread to mid latitudes and heat waves will kill tens of thousands. He preaches to us that we must change our lives and eliminate fossil fuels or face the dire consequences. The future of our civilization is in the balance.

With a preacher’s zeal, Mr. Gore sets out to strike terror into us and our children and make us feel we are all complicit in the potential demise of the planet.

Here is my rebuttal.

There is no significant man made global warming. There has not been any in the past, there is none now and there is no reason to fear any in the future. The climate of Earth is changing. It has always changed. But mankind’s activities have not overwhelmed or significantly modified the natural forces.

Through all history, Earth has shifted between two basic climate regimes: ice ages and what paleoclimatologists call “Interglacial periods”. For the past 10 thousand years the Earth has been in an interglacial period. That might well be called nature’s global warming because what happens during an interglacial period is the Earth warms up, the glaciers melt and life flourishes. Clearly from our point of view, an interglacial period is greatly preferred to the deadly rigors of an ice age. Mr. Gore and his crowd would have us believe that the activities of man have overwhelmed nature during this interglacial period and are producing an unprecedented, out of control warming.

Well, it is simply not happening. Worldwide there was a significant natural warming trend in the 1980’s and 1990’s as a Solar cycle peaked with lots of sunspots and solar flares. That ended in 1998 and now the Sun has gone quiet with fewer and fewer Sun spots, and the global temperatures have gone into decline. Earth has cooled for almost ten straight years. So, I ask Al Gore, where’s the global warming?

The cooling trend is so strong that recently the head of the United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change had to acknowledge it. He speculated that nature has temporarily overwhelmed mankind’s warming and it may be ten years or so before the warming returns. Oh, really. We are supposed to be in a panic about man-made global warming and the whole thing takes a ten year break because of the lack of Sun spots. If this weren’t so serious, it would be laughable.

Now allow me to talk a little about the science behind the global warming frenzy. I have dug through thousands of pages of research papers, including the voluminous documents published by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. I have worked my way through complicated math and complex theories. Here’s the bottom line: the entire global warming scientific case is based on the increase in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere from the use of fossil fuels. They don’t have any other issue. Carbon Dioxide, that’s it.

Hello Al Gore; Hello UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Your science is flawed; your hypothesis is wrong; your data is manipulated. And, may I add, your scare tactics are deplorable. The Earth does not have a fever. Carbon dioxide does not cause significant global warming.

The focus on atmospheric carbon dioxide grew out a study by Roger Revelle who was an esteemed scientist at the Scripps Oceanographic Institute. He took his research with him when he moved to Harvard and allowed his students to help him process the data for his paper. One of those students was Al Gore. That is where Gore got caught up in this global warming frenzy. Revelle’s paper linked the increases in carbon dioxide, CO2, in the atmosphere with warming. It labeled CO2 as a greenhouse gas.

Charles Keeling, another researcher at the Scripps Oceanographic Institute, set up a system to make continuous CO2 measurements. His graph of these increases has now become known as the Keeling Curve. When Charles Keeling died in 2005, his son Ralph, also at Scripps, took over the measurements. Here is what the Keeling curve shows: an increase in CO2 from 315 parts per million in 1958 to 385 parts per million today, an increase of 70 parts per million or about 20 percent.

All the computer models, all of the other findings, all of the other angles of study, all come back to and are based on CO2 as a significant greenhouse gas. It is not.

Here is the deal about CO2, carbon dioxide. It is a natural component of our atmosphere. It has been there since time began. It is absorbed and emitted by the oceans. It is used by every living plant to trigger photosynthesis. Nothing would be green without it. And we humans; we create it. Every time we breathe out, we emit carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. It is not a pollutant. It is not smog. It is a naturally occurring invisible gas.

Let me illustrate. I estimate that this square in front of my face contains 100,000 molecules of atmosphere. Of those 100,000 only 38 are CO2; 38 out of a hundred thousand. That makes it a trace component. Let me ask a key question: how can this tiny trace upset the entire balance of the climate of Earth? It can’t. That’s all there is to it; it can’t.

The UN IPCC has attracted billions of dollars for the research to try to make the case that CO2 is the culprit of run-away, man-made global warming. The scientists have come up with very complex creative theories and done elaborate calculations and run computer models they say prove those theories. They present us with a concept they call radiative forcing. The research organizations and scientists who are making a career out of this theory, keep cranking out the research papers. Then the IPCC puts on big conferences at exotic places, such as the recent conference in Bali. The scientists endorse each other’s papers, they are summarized and voted on, and voila, we are told global warming is going to kill us all unless we stop burning fossil fuels.

May I stop here for a few historical notes? First, the internal combustion engine and gasoline were awful polluters when they were first invented. And, both gasoline and automobile engines continued to leave a layer of smog behind right up through the 1960’s. Then science and engineering came to the environmental rescue. Better exhaust and ignition systems, catalytic converters, fuel injectors, better engineering throughout the engine and reformulated gasoline have all contributed to a huge reduction in the exhaust emissions from today’s cars. Their goal then was to only exhaust carbon dioxide and water vapor, two gases widely accepted as natural and totally harmless. Anyone old enough to remember the pall of smog that used to hang over all our cities knows how much improvement there has been. So the environmentalists, in their battle against fossil fuels and automobiles had a very good point forty years ago, but now they have to focus almost entirely on the once harmless carbon dioxide. And, that is the rub. Carbon dioxide is not an environmental problem; they just want you now to think it is.

Numerous independent research projects have been done about the greenhouse impact from increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide. These studies have proven to my total satisfaction that CO2 is not creating a major greenhouse effect and is not causing an increase in temperatures. By the way, before his death, Roger Revelle coauthored a paper cautioning that CO2 and its greenhouse effect did not warrant extreme countermeasures.

So now it has come down to an intense campaign, orchestrated by environmentalists claiming that the burning of fossil fuels dooms the planet to run-away global warming. Ladies and Gentlemen, that is a myth.

So how has the entire global warming frenzy with all its predictions of dire consequences, become so widely believed, accepted and regarded as a real threat to planet Earth? That is the most amazing part of the story.

To start with global warming has the backing of the United Nations, a major world force. Second, it has the backing of a former Vice President and very popular political figure. Third it has the endorsement of Hollywood, and that’s enough for millions. And, fourth, the environmentalists love global warming. It is their tool to combat fossil fuels. So with the environmentalists, the UN, Gore and Hollywood touting Global Warming and predictions of doom and gloom, the media has scrambled with excitement to climb aboard. After all the media loves a crisis. From Y2K to killer bees the media just loves to tell us our lives are threatened. And the media is biased toward liberal, so it’s pre-programmed to support Al Gore and UN. CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times, The LA Times, The Washington Post, the Associated Press and here in San Diego The Union Tribune are all constantly promoting the global warming crisis.

So who is going to go against all of that power? Not the politicians. So now the President of the United States, just about every Governor, most Senators and most Congress people, both of the major current candidates for President, most other elected officials on all levels of government are all riding the Al Gore Global Warming express. That is one crowded bus.

I suspect you haven’t heard it because the mass media did not report it, but I am not alone on the no man-made warming side of this issue. On May 20th, a list of the names of over thirty-one thousand scientists who refute global warming was released. Thirty-one thousand of which 9,000 are Ph.D's. Think about that. Thirty-one thousand. That dwarfs the supposed 2,500 scientists on the UN panel. In the past year, five hundred of scientists have issued public statements challenging global warming. A few more join the chorus every week. There are about 100 defectors from the UN IPCC. There was an International Conference of Climate Change Skeptics in New York in March of this year. One hundred of us gave presentations. Attendance was limited to six hundred people. Every seat was taken. There are a half dozen excellent internet sites that debunk global warming. And, thank goodness for KUSI and Michael McKinnon, its owner. He allows me to post my comments on global warming on the website KUSI.com. Following the publicity of my position from Fox News, Glen Beck on CNN, Rush Limbaugh and a host of other interviews, thousands of people come to the website and read my comments. I get hundreds of supportive emails from them. No I am not alone and the debate is not over.

In my remarks in New York I speculated that perhaps we should sue Al Gore for fraud because of his carbon credits trading scheme. That remark has caused a stir in the fringe media and on the internet. The concept is that if the media won’t give us a hearing and the other side will not debate us, perhaps we could use a Court of law to present our papers and our research and if the Judge is unbiased and understands science, we win. The media couldn’t ignore that. That idea has become the basis for legal research by notable attorneys and discussion among global warming debunkers, but it’s a long way from the Court room.

I am very serious about this issue. I think stamping out the global warming scam is vital to saving our wonderful way of life.

The battle against fossil fuels has controlled policy in this country for decades. It was the environmentalist’s prime force in blocking any drilling for oil in this country and the blocking the building of any new refineries, as well. So now the shortage they created has sent gasoline prices soaring. And, it has lead to the folly of ethanol, which is also partly behind the fuel price increases; that and our restricted oil policy. The ethanol folly is also creating a food crisis throughout the world – it is behind the food price rises for all the grains, for cereals, bread, everything that relies on corn or soy or wheat, including animals that are fed corn, most processed foods that use corn oil or soybean oil or corn syrup. Food shortages or high costs have led to food riots in some third world countries and made the cost of eating out or at home budget busting for many.

So now the global warming myth actually has lead to the chaos we are now enduring with energy and food prices. We pay for it every time we fill our gas tanks. Not only is it running up gasoline prices, it has changed government policy impacting our taxes, our utility bills and the entire focus of government funding. And, now the Congress is considering a cap and trade carbon credits policy. We the citizens will pay for that, too. It all ends up in our taxes and the price of goods and services.

So the Global warming frenzy is, indeed, threatening our civilization. Not because global warming is real; it is not. ]But because of the all the horrible side effects of the global warming scam.

I love this civilization. I want to do my part to protect it.

If Al Gore and his global warming scare dictates the future policy of our governments, the current economic downturn could indeed become a recession, drift into a depression and our modern civilization could fall into an abyss. And it would largely be a direct result of the global warming frenzy.

My mission, in what is left of a long and exciting lifetime, is to stamp out this Global Warming silliness and let all of us get on with enjoying our lives and loving our planet,Earth.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:55 am    Post subject: Global warming Reply with quote

Johnny V,

Excellent post!

I agree with your assessment and observations of the supporting information pro and con on global warming.
It is a well known fact that the earth has many times in the past cycled through warm and cold periods, this it has done on it's own without man's help.
It is also a well known fact that preceeding every ice age there is a spike in co2 levels which produces a short term green house effect. When this warming effect produces the expected changes to the polar caps (as we are currently monitoring) the thermal conveyor (ocean currents) changes direction producing changes that tend to counter the initial effects. In doing so, it can be seen that the earth with it's many connected systems and subsystems is a self correcting mechanism that returns to a stable state when perturbed.

In my opinion weather man is producing this current warming trend or the earth is just cycling as it always has is a point that can be endlessly debated by all the experts that never seem to agree. So much for all that money they spent on higher education.
One thing we can all agree on without the aid of experts is that all nations of the earth require energy to maintain a coherent form of civilization. The technologically advanced nations have the most to lose because of their dependency on a single source of (cheap or not so cheap any more) energy, namely oil.

Every living cell on this planet requires and has an inherent right to energy outside of itself to sustain its life. From single cell creatures to man. We see this as the law of nature yet when humans are considered for some reason we separate ourselves from this law. As a result we are lead to think we do not have a right to any energy source outside of our self except for the three meals a day which only some on this planet are graceously allowed and the sunshine that falls upon us. This form of thinking needs desparately to be arrested.

Every human on this planet has the right to any form of energy they require to survive!

There is no shortage of energy, only a shortage of oil. We now have the technology to produce all the electrical energy each person needs without oil. Reference title 35 of the current patents laws. This clause forbids any inventor that claims or demonstrates over-unity (more power out then in) to enter the market place or be produced under the guise of national security.
As stated our current laws of physics do not allow over-unity in principle or practice. If this is true then why have a title 35 at all. Why forbid any device that produces cheap energy without consuming oil?
The answer has more to do with geo-politics that physics.

All efforts that get us off of oil and closer to independant power generation are welcomed by me. Come what may as humans we will need an abundant and clean source of energy if we are to survive the coming warming or cooling trend.
That form of energy will be electricity.

Unless we solve this issue of energy and the right to it all other arguments are mute points.

In the final analysis energy is what gives us our rights and freedoms as humans. If we are forced to pay someone else to furnish our energy requirements we are indeed on a short leash. They will control our incomes, our speech, what we are to think, where and how and how long we will live and how many children we will have.

While it is still our preserved right, let us continually petition our governments to do the right thing. Remind them that we are the debt payers and they created the debt! Remind them that they have been poor stewards of the land, sea, sky and people they represent and if they can't or won't do it then step aside... we must and we will do it. Start a petition to fire them and revoke their platinum parachute (retirement benefits)... the latter will work wonders.

It is clear none of us can sustain for very long an economy based on oil that continually increases the cost of simple living. If you want more of the same... do nothing. If you see the urgency then act accordingly.
I urge no one to use rash action! Use your God given sense of right and wrong, then do what you can!

Thanx johnny V for a thought provoking post.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:05 am    Post subject: Oil and The Gusher of Lies Reply with quote

This is one a series of Books that I have read. From all the reasearch I have done in the past 10 years everyone needs to read this and Daniel Yeargins - The Prize , as well as Lindsey Williams the " Energy Non Crisies.

June 9, 2008
Lindsey Williams’ Life Threatened by Tycoon for Speaking Out About the Non-Energy Crisis
Filed under: Energy, Lindsey Williams — Jeff Fenske @ 12:53 am
Tags: gull island, life threatened, lindsay, Lindsey Williams, oil, peak oil

For the background on this story, see Lindsey Williams: The Energy *Non*-Crisis—Alaska’s ‘Classified’ Oil Reserve Largest on Earth?
On The Officer Jack McLamb Show, 6/5/08, Jack McLamb said this.

“Back to Lindsey Williams being threatened on the phone. He had this multi-billionaire call him, that he knew on the pipeline up there (Prudhoe Bay, Alaska) and had respect for at that time, who called him and very nicely told him: ‘Lindsey, if you start talking about Gull Island right now…we’re going to kill you, and we’re going to kill your family too.’

From what I have gleamed from all the research Oil is still being produced by the core of the earth. Old oil wells that have been caped are filling up again due to a geothermic reaction of microbes & bacteria generated by the the natural chemical reactions of the core of the earth.
The inexpensive crude from the North Slope and Gull Island is not coming into this country. There is more reserves there that in the middle east and Russia put together ( 300 years worth)?
However politics and lies by certain people are influencing the media to spread a pack of lies. Yes I firmly believe that and know that there is a great number of inventions that can remove gasoline as a energy source but powers that be have bought them and shelved them. For example 60 minutes has Mike Wallace interview a gentlemen that has a carborator that got over 45 MPG on Jaguar XKE , what happened to him ? Others have come forward with running their cars on hydrogen with out the Balard Power expensive fuel cell. They are labeled a wack job and the design is shelved ? This gloom & doom economy is all media hype. Look at Bob's book, he has done his homework.

Oil and The Gusher of Lies


Robert Bryce's work has appeared in numerous publications including Atlantic Monthly, Slate, Salon, American Conservative, Washington Post and The Guardian. He is the managing editor of Energy Tribune and is a contributing writer for the Texas Observer. His third book, Gusher of Lies: The Dangerous Delusions of "Energy Independence," . He lives in Austin.

Robert Bryce's articles have appeared in dozens of publications including the Atlantic Monthly, Slate, New York Times, Washington Post, American Conservative, The Nation, Washington Spectator and The Guardian. His first book, Pipe Dreams: Greed, Ego, and the Death of Enron, received rave reviews and was named one of the best non-fiction books of 2002 by Publishers Weekly. His second book, Cronies: Oil, the Bushes, and the Rise of Texas, America's Superstate, was published 2004. Bryce spent 12 years writing for the Austin Chronicle.

He now works as the managing editor of Energy Tribune, a Houston-based newsletter. He is also a contributing writer at the Texas Observer.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree. GREAT POST.

(except it belongs in the Washington Post and NYT -- giving then at least one thing worth reading!)
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