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cyberjamb



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:39 pm    Post subject: Virus report for the mac Reply with quote

Interesting reading for Mac owners and people thinking of buying a mac. Apparently the Mac isn't virus proof.

read it here:

http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/04/10/wo_hellweg102804.asp

BTW, I'm not looking for a debate on the merits of this - I'm just reporting it.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberjamb: well this one is no virus. You can fast find some articles concerning this subject with google. This aint a virus, it can install itself on your mac, neither can it damage it. You have to give your password to it..

So just relax. The Mac isnt Windows. Its virus free. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 3:13 pm    Post subject: Virus report for the mac Reply with quote

Virus or spyware or malware - it's still dangerous. If anyone thinks that a company, any company, can make software or hardware that can not be penetrated, that someone is dreaming. All it takes is a will to do it and it can be done. At one time 40 bit encryption was enough now it's up to 512 bit or maybe higher. The reason of course, is someone has figured out how to crack it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that any computer is vulnerable, it does take severe 'brand' loyality to blinded by that fact.

Getting back to the original article, the author describes the problem:

"Mac users discovered a program dubbed “Opener.” This piece of code embeds itself onto Macs running OS X, the latest Apple operating system, and disables the computer’s firewall. The malware also locates and collects any password information it can find on the infected system, leaving behind a password-cracking program called “John the Ripper.” It is believed that Opener can be called into action remotely utilizing a “bot net,” in which a remote hacker plants malware onto unsuspecting users’ computers and then calls that code into action."


The fact that it disables the firewall indicates that it is setting up for unauthorized communication with an external computer somewhere (be it a Mac, PC, Unix, whatever). The article states that the program will collect passwords (probably by capturing keystrokes when certain dialog boxes appear from various programs) and stores them. When the "home computer" contacts the infected Mac, the program retreives the passwords and sends them. Sounds dangerous? Sure does to me... PC or Mac, one should protect their computer not say "Hey, I own a vrus proof computer!"
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Cyberjamb, as "guest" did mention, this spyware cant install and run itself on a Mac, so it does not harm, because the user even if he has the admin status, must have a root password to activate this spyware, and the root password is not activated in OSX. So no harm and a false alarm. And indeed this can be also be found in many other articles about this rootpack (this is the right name of it) so please dont make panic. The Mac is the most secure system to date, and will last so. The NSA also did gave the best ranking for security for Apples MacOS X. And please what can you say about zillions of viruses, trojans and spy/malwares for Windows? The normal Windowsuser can even catch a virus because he was surfing with the Internet Explorer in the web, this is ridiculous.

So please dont write BS in here, if you dont know MacOS X and the whole core system of it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Mac Specialist, I wasn't writing 'BS'. Sounds like you got a little chip on your shoulder... I found this article and was sharing it with the group. Got a problem with that? As far as a government agency giving anything it's stamp of approval, remember it's the government - not the most efficient or intelligent entity around. I'll agree that needing the system root password is a deterrent but the system still can be breached - I've been in the business for over twenty years and have seen many systems including so when I state something as general as 'watch out' I'm not trying cause panic, it's just a warning.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, no operating system is free of bugs or viruses...malicious people are always out there, taking advantage of that fact.

I have to say, macs are relatively free of most windows worries, although I use both on a regular basis. I'm not going to go into my system choices, but I do have to say that the mac's ui is friendly, easy to use, and gets my work done without many opportunites lent to attacks...

Ultimately, common sense is the best antivirus.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:42 pm    Post subject: there are a bunch of viruses for the mac arleady Reply with quote

but if you have a mac all you have to do is update your virus software by using either the firewall built in for the mac or another one like Norton. just look for updates by using the program your using.
if you are having problems using your mac reply to this post or email me chaserdog669@yahoo.com Smile
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 3:50 pm    Post subject: Dashboard Exploit! Reply with quote

Check out this article

http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/42964.html

It looks like as Macs are going more popular more hacks are writing viruses Sad
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no real virus, trojan horse or worm for MacOS X, this is a fact, so dont panic! All these news are ridiculous, because no of the mentioned "viruses" can install themselves, or do something, without the permission of the user. So he must put them in the right place, use his password, and also use a root-password to start them. Its like, give the keys of your house to an intruder, but also show him how to open the door with these keys and show him the place where you have you money.. LOL Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Far as I know, because of the UNIX base, there is no way anyone at this time can write a virus that will install itself without
a- the user knowing about it
b- the user being able to delete it without damage

It seems a shame to me that our government and most especially our Pentagon uses Windows based servers rather than UNIX. I know that the security on the servers is good, but there are too many back doors for me to be entirely comfortable.
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MalcQV



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Mac OS or Linux/UNIX system at home or on a small network is very safe indeed.

The biggest threat to these systems is not the Internet at all. It is the people that use them.

That said if you have an upto date virus and spyware programs along with a firewall on windows you should be fine.

I use UNIX/Linux at work because it is my job, I use Windows too and like them both equally for very different reasons. I use only Windows at home at present, but may be using a mixture of Windows and Linux soon.

Another mate of mine who is a Windows IT guy only uses a firewall on his XP systems at home. He has never had a virus.

So as I said it is the people some of which can be educated some of which are very educated Wink
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